You can't be a great mum and work the whole time necessarily those two things aren't ideal. We have an awful lot to work on and to debate about in relation to our working lives because it isn't working for a lot of people particularly for a lot of women.

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We need to understand that we are not each others' enemies in this country. And it is only the political class that derives its power by creating friction. It is only the media that derives its importance by creating friction... that uses every little thing to create this chasm between people. This is not who we are.