But my point is that you design something in the end that precludes any unhealthy trading practices that are not going to serve your environmental or your economic objectives but now is not the time to do it.

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I've been to therapists my whole life. I find the less attention I pay to food the healthier I am. Any obsession is dangerous. And a whole country that's obsessed with one thing unless it's like jeans it's very dangerous. Everyone's obsessed right now with carbohydrates in this country. It's ridiculous.