Obviously I come from one background and the people that design fitness equipment have been doing it for years and years and they know what works and doesn't work.

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The pop world is cool but I never really thought of myself as part of it or wanting to be a part of it because I'm on a label that's not really like that. They're not trying to dress me up they're not trying to do things like that. I feel like I'm sort of separate from that actually.